Greenbank Rathbone family house estate Liverpool
photograph circa 1900
Charles Forget Louisa Bourgeois
Swiss consul in Liverpool
Emma Catherine Forget
born between 4 April 1857 and 31 March 1858
died 15 March 1933
marriage 14 February 1878
Arthur B. Rathbone
Charles Arthur Rathbone 22 november 1878
Cecil Edmond Rathbone 30 august 1881
Guy Benson Rathbone 28 may 1884
They had four children:
1. Charles Arthur RATHBONE born 11 November 1878, Liverpool, Lancashire. Captain in the South Lancashire Regiment, served in Frances during First World War (wou died 6 November 1951, Kidderminster, Worcestershire. married 18 August 1927 in the Stockport area, Cheshire to Muriel Eileen GRAHAM MAY daughter of George GRAHAM a widow from Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, with a son: John Graham MAY. There were no children.
2. Cecil Edmund RATHBONE born 30 August 1881, Liverpool, Lancashire died 1 October 1905 in Rohat, Punjab, India - aged 24. Unmarried
3. Guy Benson RATHBONE born 29 May, Sefton Park, Liverpool baptised 26 June 1884, Liverpool (St Michael) Actor - member of Frank Benson's Shakespeare Company Lived at 107 Haverstock Hill, Hampstead, London prior to his death Commission in the Gloucestershire Regiment in February 1915 and died on active service on 21 April 1916 at Sulva Bay, Gallipoli.
His name is included on Basra Memorial.
He married 22 October 1910 at Bayswater (St Matthew), London to Theodora DE SELINCOURT date of birth unknown daughter of Charles Alexander SELINCOURT
She remarried on 22 August 1917 at Hampstead (St Peter), London to Norman Robert McKEOWN, Army Captain, of Sydney, Australia. She died 2 February, 1973.
Guy Benson & Theodora had a daughter: Pamela Joyce RATHBONE born on 25 November 1912, Hampstead, London
She married in 1946 in the Ashford area of Kent to Edward COULSON (who taught history)
He has now died, but I understand that she may be still living in the Oxford area.
4. Sylvia Catherine RATHBONE born 10 October 1890 Liverpool area died 22 September 1954 at Dyke House Formby, Lancashire. Unmarried
I can give you more details of the line of ancestors of Arthur Benson RATHBONE, if you are interested.
Could you tell give me dates for Charles FORGET and Louisa BOURGEOIS, where and when they were married, and the names Emma's brothers and sisters ?
Best wishes,
Dorcas HENDERSHOTT
The RATHBONE Register
His father: (William) Benson RATHBONE
Birth: 17 Apr 1826, Greenbank, Toxeth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire Baptism: Death: 26 Oct 1892, Holly Mount, Gt. Malvern, Worcestershire Burial: 1 Nov 1892 Occ: cotton broker (1881) He worked in the firms of Duckworth & Rathbone, and Rathbone, Clay & Co. Marriage: 31 Mar 1852, the Altrincham area, Cheshire Spouse: Hannah Sophia GREG Birth: ca 1832, Manchester, Lancashire Death: 9 Jan 1914, Woodcroft, Allerton, Liverpool, Lancashire Burial: Jan 1914, Grassendale, Lancashire Father: Robert Hyde GREG of Coles Park, Northcliffe Hall, Cheshire Mother: Mary PHILLIPS Children: Arthur Benson RATHBONE (1853-1915) Edith RATHBONE (1854-1935) Florence RATHBONE (1855-1926) George RATHBONE (1857-1953) Nina RATHBONE (1859-1936) Frederick RATHBONE (1861-1940) Arnold Richard RATHBONE (1863-1915) Mark Philips RATHBONE (1866-1954)
His grandfather: Richard RATHBONE
Birth: 2 Dec 1788, Liverpool, Lancashire No baptism: (Quaker) Death: 10 Nov 1860, "Woodcote", Liverpool, Lancashire Burial: November 1860, Ancient Chapel of Toxteth, Liverpool, lancashire Occ: commission merchant Richard studied at Oxford University in 1806. When his father, William RATHBONE (the fourth) died in 1809, the existing partnership of Rathbone, Hughes & Duncan was dissolved, and Richard and his brother, William RATHBONE (the fifth, set up business in their account as commission merchants, trading primarily in America with cotton. He retired in 1835, and was a committed opponent of the slave trade. Marriage: 8 Apr 1817 (probably a Quaker ceremony) Spouse: Hannah Mary REYNOLDS Birth: 5 Jul 1798, Ketley, nr Wellington, Shropshire Death: 26 Mar 1878, Ivy Lodge, Aigburth, Liverpool, Lancshire Burial: March 1878, Ancient Chapel of Toxteth, Liverpool, lancashire Occ: writer & painter Father: Joseph REYNOLDS (1768-) Mother: Deborah DEARMAN She was the half cousin of her husband, RICHARD Rathbone, and a grand-daughter of Richard REYNOLDS. There is a Joseph Gulson REYNOLDS, late of Bristol, who died 2 October 1871 aged 72, also buried in the RATHBONE family grave at Toxeth Park, Liverpool - he couldhave been Hannah Mary’s brother.
His great grandfather: William RATHBONE
Birth: 10 Jun 1757, Liverpool, Lancashire No Baptism (Quaker) Death: 11 Feb 1809, "Greenbank", Liverpool, Lancashire Burial: Feb 1809, Friends Burying Ground, Liverpool, Lancashire Occ: merchant, ship owner, philanthropist & educationalist He took over the family firm when his father, William died in 1789, when he was 32 and had already been running the business for many years. During 1780's and 1790's, the Rathbones' business changed from a timber and general merchanting business to one specialising in trade with America. The company imported the fisrt cotton from America to England in 1798. Marriage: 17 Aug 1786, Shrewsbury, Shropshie (Quaker ceremony) Spouse: Hannah Mary REYNOLDS Birth: 3 May 1761, Ketley, Wellington, Shropshire Death: 29 May 1839, Liverpool, Lancashire Burial: 1839, Hunter St. Friends Burial Ground, Liverpool, Lancashire Occ: artist & authoress Father: Richard REYNOLDS (1735-1816) Mother: Hannah DARBY (1735-1762) She was the only daughter of the Quaker and philanthropist, Richard REYNOLDS of Bristol and Shropshire. (1735-1816) who married Hannah DARBY (1735-1762) in 1757. He was the proprietor of, and a partner in the Coalbrookdale ironworks in Shropshire. Her mother, Hannah, was - according to the Rathbone Pedigree (1873) - a daughter of Abraham and Margaret DARBY of Coalbrookdale, Shropshire and therefore the ?sister of the wife of WILLIAM's uncle Joseph (who married Mary DARBY in 1746). The wedding was celebrated at the Friends Meeting House in Shrewsbury, as well as bring recorded in Bristol. She was a half-cousin to her husband, William RATHBONE. William & Hannah Mary were the first RATHBONEs to live at "Greenbank", which was then part of Toxteth Park, Liverpool. It was leased at first, but then purchased in 1809, the year of William’s death Gore's directory of 1837 records the widowed Hannah Mary RATHBONE as living at Woodcroft Cottage, Smithdown Lane, Liverpool.
His 2 x great grandfather: William RATHBONE
Birth: 6 Jan 1726, Liverpool, Lancs. Baptism: 24 Jul 1726, Liverpool St Peter, Lancs. Death: 11 Aug 1789, Liverpool, Lancs. Burial: Aug 1789, Hackins Hey Friends burial ground, Liverpool, Lancs. Occ: timber merchant, shipbuilder, philanthropist He took over the family business on the death of his father in 1746, and he refused to allow any of his timber or ships to be used in the slave trade. Marriage: 22 Nov 1750, Liverpool (Quaker Ceremony) Spouse: Rachel RUTTER Birth: 3 Sep 1730, Dublin, Ireland Death: 4 Feb 1761, Liverpool, Lancashire Burial: 6 Feb 1761, Hardshaw, Liverpool (Quaker ceremony) Father: Joseph RUTTER Mother: Sarah SOMERFORD
His 3 x great grandfather: William RATHBONE
Birth: 1696, Gawsworth, Cheshire Baptism: 22 May 1696, Gawsworth, Cheshire Death: 9 Mar 1746, Liverpool, Lancashire Burial: Mar 1746, Hackins Hey Friends burial ground, Liverpool, Lancashire (Quaker ceremony) Occ: sawyer, timber merchant William left Gawsworth before 1725 to work as a sawyer in Liverpool and became a Quaker circa 1731. Marriage: 25 Nov 1722, Walton on the Hill, Lancs. Spouse: Sarah HYDE Birth: 3 Jan 1701 Death: 15 Jan 1727/28, ? Liverpool, Lancashire She was descendant of Thomas HYDE of Houghton, Lancashire
His 4 x great grandfather: William RATHBONE
Birth: 1669, Gawsworth, Cheshire Chr: 20 Jun 1669, Gawsworth St James, Cheshire Death: 6 Dec 1739, Alderley (Edge), Cheshire Burial: Dec 1739, Friends Burial Ground, Macclesfield, Cheshire Marriage; 1688 Spouse: Martha VIGOUR Birth: circa 1665 Death: Nov 1743, ? Alderley (Edge) Cheshire Burial: 1743, Friends Burial Ground, Macclesfield, Cheshire
His 5 x great grandfather: Phillip RATHBONE
Birth: 1645/1646, Gawsworth, Cheshire Chr: Feb 12, 1645/1646, Gawsworth St James, Cheshire Death: 1690, Congleton, Cheshire Burial: 1690, ? Astbury, Cheshe Occ: carpenter Marriage: 29 Mar 1673, Astbury St Mary Spouse: Anne OLBESTON Death: after 1690, Cheshire
His 6 x great grandfather: Phillip RATHBONE
Birth: Apr 1616, Astbury, Cheshire Death: 1683/1684, Gawsworth, Cheshire Marriage: unknown Spouse: Ellin née ?
His 7 x great grandfather: John RATHBONE
Birth: 1585, Astbury, Cheshire Baptism: 30 Jan 1585, Astbury, Cheshire Death: 1654, ? Astbury, Cheshire Burial: 1654, ? Astbury, Cheshire Marriage: 6 Aug 1607, Astbury, Cheshire Spouse: Elizabeth OAKES
His 8 x great grandfather: John RATHBONE
Birth: circa 1555 Marriage: 5 Jun 1580, Astbury Spouse: Alicia HULME
NOTES
- Census1881 3 April 1881 She was listed as the wife of Arthur Benson Rathbone
in the 1881 census at 9 Bertram Road, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire.
- Census 1901 31 March 1901 She was listed as the wife of Arthur Benson
Rathbone in the 1901 Census at Formby, Lancashire .
Death* 15 March 1933 Emma Catherine Forget died on 15 March 1933 at Ormskirk,
Lancashire.
Family Arthur Benson Rathbone b. 7 February 1853, d. 15 March 1915
Children Charles Arthur Rathbone b. 11 Nov 1878, d. 6 Nov 1951
Cecil Edmund Rathbone b. 30 Aug 1881, d. 1 Oct 1905
Guy Benson Rathbone+ b. 29 May 1884, d. 21 Apr 1916
Sylvia Catherine Rathbone b. 10 Oct 1890, d. 22 Sep 1954
Citations
[S48] Online index to the UK National Census for 1901 for UK.
[S49] UK National Census for 1881 Index, UK "RG11/3652 f7 p7."
[S184] Website Lancashire BMD "2059WD/1/15."
[S49] UK National Census for 1881 Index, UK "RG11/3552 f7 p7."
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